some little suggestions for class wars

some little suggestions for class wars

Postby lenomon » May 19th, 2016, 3:52 pm

i've been playing for a while and i noticed that some people would like a vote option to reduce time for those 20 minutes in which the red team is pyro or heavy and the blu are spies, also some guys wanted some silly chat name tags like "potato" or "melon" :v
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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby Accouter » May 19th, 2016, 6:06 pm

I think the vote option to reduce times has been covered already. The option would be abused by people until they got a match up they wanted and skip all the other match ups that they don't want to play.

And for more stamm name recommendations you can put them here, viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1729
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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby Gangsta Luigi » May 19th, 2016, 6:21 pm

Accouter wrote:I think the vote option to reduce times has been covered already. The option would be abused by people until they got a match up they wanted and skip all the other match ups that they don't want to play.

And for more stamm name recommendations you can put them here, viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1729


Why is this bad? The vote would need majority. If the majority of players don't want to play a round, then why is it bad to let them vote to skip to the next round?
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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby Clone » May 19th, 2016, 6:37 pm

We already covered that and yes it came down to people abusing it.
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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby Hatter » May 19th, 2016, 6:49 pm

Some people like the challenge of a bad matchup and feel the spirit of the plugin is to use teamwork and the best loadout to overcome the odds. Those people are probably in the minority and by nature would lose in a !vote situation.

A !vote on time reduction would probably boil down to a good portion of the defending team wanting to give up their advantage. If that is the case, they can simply choose to stop defending if they are bored with their teammates spawn camping a weaker class.

What we don't want to see is endless !votes until a "good" matchup is achieved, everyone's idea of "good" will vary. More playing, less !voting.
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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby Gangsta Luigi » May 19th, 2016, 7:27 pm

Maybe a way to shave some time off the clock? Not skip the round entirely, but let's say it's Scout v Engie for 30 minutes. What about a vote that would reduce the time by 10 minutes or something?
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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby TRUTECH » May 19th, 2016, 8:45 pm

That too, has been suggested

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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby Bwainz » May 21st, 2016, 3:52 pm

honestly something needs to be done when it comes to unfair/ridiculous matchups. a blue spy vs red pyro on the 3rd map and it's 30 mins long is just guaranteeing that blu will have plenty of rage quits, just to give one example.
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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby Gangsta Luigi » May 21st, 2016, 4:06 pm

Honestly, it really isn't anything that can be fixed I don't think. Having an A/D map as class wars guarantees this kind of thing to happen (Scout VS Engineers for example)

The only thing that would work in my opinion is a time reduction vote.
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Re: some little suggestions for class wars

Postby Phaiz » May 21st, 2016, 5:54 pm

I can not think of any way for a time vote to be implemented without it being abused. Unrelated but there's a reason Orange doesn't have a voteban.

The /addtime command was added so an admin can at least attempt to make some people happy. The reason I say "some people" is because it isn't supposed to be used automatically when it comes to red pyro vs blu spy. The round should be played out to an extent.

To quote part of the staff section post regarding the command -

This can be used to help with rounds that have a terrible match up, such as Spy vs Red Pyro. This should not be used to circumvent every single unfair round or an entire round. Unfair match ups are a part of the plugin because it is completely random. Please do not remove more than half of the rounds remaining time.
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