[Declined] Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby Gangsta Luigi » September 5th, 2016, 12:33 pm

Johnny Wise wrote:This game is actually balanced AROUND random crits.


If that was true then competitive would have them.

And my assumption was based off of the complaints that Hawke mentioned. Well fuck, everyone loves crits. At least I tried.
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby hawkesnightmare » September 5th, 2016, 1:01 pm

Yeah, everyone likes to complain about them, but mostly it's all in good fun, and I at least would be disappointed if Valve removed them completely.
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby Hatter » September 5th, 2016, 1:21 pm

http://stats.skvrs.com/hlstats.php?mode=players&game=tf&sort=deaths&sortorder=desc


As someone quite familiar with dying ^...I have probably died more to random crits than anyone here.

I neither like or dislike them, I just view them as part of the game. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

If everyone here played at the same level I'd be all for crit removal, it removes most of the luck out of the equation. But as it is, its basically a pub with a wide range of skill across the server player base. New players can have a very rough time on our server when loaded with regulars. Removing most of their chance to beat someone and getting their face stomped in over and over could make it a place where they are unlikely to return. We need those new random players to become repeat players, it's what helps keep the server going. The regulars are not enough to keep it going more than a few hours at a time. Things have gotten a little better in the last week or so, but the DB server sat empty a few afternoons and evenings after quickplay was removed.

If I was the best player (in no way do I believe I am even close), and I should win every time, I think it would get old for both me and the guy on the other side very quickly.

It can also be argued that we are alienating people who don't like crits and I'd be all for turning one of the dead servers into a no-crit server, but history shows it is likely to fail. The comp rotation server was no crit if I remember correctly. But nobody came except a small handful of us, most people stayed on dustbowl.

My advice...I know they can be frustrating, we've all probably been there at times. Learn to laugh them off and remember we're here to have fun, a game isn't worth getting upset over.
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby Johnny Wise » September 5th, 2016, 2:02 pm

Hatter, quickplay doesn't exist anymore. We don't GET new random players.

Luigi, Competitive doesn't have random crits because it was designed by ESEA Invite or Premier players. Casual still has random crits.
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby Gangsta Luigi » September 5th, 2016, 2:14 pm

By the way I'm not getting genuinely mad about crits - I just think they're a dumb mechanic. I love TF2 and Skiver eiher way, lol
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby Hatter » September 5th, 2016, 3:43 pm

Johnny Wise wrote:Hatter, quickplay doesn't exist anymore. We don't GET new random players.


Yeah, note were I said "after quickplay was removed".

I can't be the only person in the world that uses the server browser to find a specific map I want to play that is populated. That is were you still get random players.
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby Dolan » September 5th, 2016, 4:08 pm

I don't think this will happen...

1:03 PM - Dolanmindo [SKVR]: hey doc, would you want random crits removed from db?
1:03 PM - ♘SKVR♘ Doc O'Neill: NEVER in a million years
1:05 PM - Dolanmindo [SKVR]: There is a petition floating around on the forums under server suggestions that was started by luigi to remove them
1:06 PM - ♘SKVR♘ Doc O'Neill: well, Dust was set up in the beggining as it is. forever. If it were to change I would not go there.


Maybe we can remove random crits from goldrush?
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby A Raptor Petting Zoo » September 6th, 2016, 2:59 pm

i main a class that would be beyond useless without random crits
but at the same time pans do crit like every other swing so i like crits c:

balanced crits are fair & random *besides for the pan, that thing is scripted or somethin*
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby Gangsta Luigi » September 6th, 2016, 3:04 pm

A Raptor Petting Zoo wrote:i main a class that would be beyond useless without random crits
but at the same time pans do crit like every other swing so i like crits c:

balanced crits are fair & random *besides for the pan, that thing is scripted or somethin*


the fact that they're random is WHY they're unfair ;-;
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Re: Petition To REMOVE RANDOM CRITS On Dustbowl

Postby crazie » September 6th, 2016, 3:12 pm

In regards to Dolans post, Doc can hate them, but in the end he and the rest of us will always do what is best for the skiver servers.
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